Go Back   > > >
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:34 am   #1
Original Poster
  
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold & GGL & CCR, HH Diam, Accor Sil, Black Cineworld Unlimited, Tastecard
Posts: 7,083
self boarding gates are here

did a search and couldn't find anything on this topic - if it's already covered, mods, please merge or delete.

flew from A8 last night and noticed these banners advertising self-boarding / e-boarding gates as well as the gates themselves.









they weren't in use but clearly the are coming.

be interesting to see how priority boarding etc will work - will the gates refuse anyone through who doesn't have it or will boarding become even more 'free for all'....?

Happy Flying.
chris1979 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:40 am   #2
  
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 85
My guess even more if a free for all. It states "All customers" on the boards.

How does the travel document check work?
kwisstan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:42 am   #3
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
  
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: UK/Las Vegas
Programs: BA Gold (GGL/CCR)
Posts: 10,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwisstan View Post
My guess even more if a free for all. It states "All customers" on the boards.

How does the travel document check work?
Looking at the instructions on the board, these will be for domestic flights only.
Tobias-UK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:44 am   #4
  
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 85
Your eyes are better than mine but then I'm viewing on a phone
kwisstan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:45 am   #5
  
Join Date: May 2016
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, Accor Gold
Posts: 346
Yep only domestics, only time they will have your photo.
bhbloke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:46 am   #6
  
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 4,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris1979 View Post
...be interesting to see how priority boarding etc will work - will the gates refuse anyone through who doesn't have it or will boarding become even more 'free for all'....?
Yeah, that's a very interesting point. One gate could be programmed to just accept eligible boarding passes, however, this would likely be clogged by people trying their luck before their priority is reached. The priority level currently boarding would need to be very very clearly shown for it to have any chance of working. I can see a bad-tempered scrum around any priority boarding gate...
Flexible preferences is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:47 am   #7
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 28,616
Previous discussion here:
Automated Boarding Gates coming?

What is certainly new is the banners, so yes I'm sure they are limbering up for finally switching these on. As shown in the previous thread, BA have been trying to get this to work properly for years, without much success. The machines had such a high failure rate it was frankly cheaper to get humans to do it, similar to the experience of self service check-in at locations other than LHR. Those of us who travel on Lufthansa and SAS are well used to these gates, the Lufthansa version is also "tuned" to enforce priority boarding, by the way. And even if they are not, people think they are!
corporate-wage-slave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:47 am   #8
  
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Oxford, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 266
Will be interesting to see how op-ups, exit row seat checks, and other random boarding pass troubles are handled. Perhaps it'll be akin to the Tesco self-service checkout situation where you have roaming assistants waiting to intervene everytime an issue arises that the technology can't handle. I fear this will be more annoying for everyone involved, particularly if the boarding becomes more of a free-for-all, as suggested above.
crazyanglaisy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:47 am   #9
  
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 4,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhbloke View Post
Yep only domestics, only time they will have your photo.
Isn't CE coming soon for domestics though?
Flexible preferences is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:49 am   #10
  
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond, Hertz PC, Avis PC, Uber 5.0 :D
Posts: 1,034
I for one welcome this initiative, provided it does indeed control Priority Boarding consistently and particularly if it frees up staff to properly police hand baggage, give floating help etc.
Fitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:53 am   #11
  
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,524
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexible preferences View Post
Isn't CE coming soon for domestics though?
Not sure that makes a difference? Other than in setting boarding order.

The point being you only have a biometric photo for domestics, which is what the gates use to identify you.
Ldnn1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 1:57 am   #12
  
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond, Hertz PC, Avis PC, Uber 5.0 :D
Posts: 1,034
I would guess the gate might ask you to scan your BP and swipe your passport so as to match the name on the PNR with that in the machine-readable text... which is pretty much all ground staff have the time to do now...
Fitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 2:01 am   #13
  
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,524
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitch View Post
I would guess the gate might ask you to scan your BP and swipe your passport so as to match the name on the PNR with that in the machine-readable text... which is pretty much all ground staff have the time to do now...
It's clear from the sign that there's a camera which will be used to match your face against the photo on file.

Similar to the e-gates at immigration, but rather than matching against your passport biometric photo, it will match against the photo taken at domestic security.

It could be used for non-domestic flights, but only for passengers with approved biometric passports.
Ldnn1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 2:06 am   #14
Ambassador: Emirates Airlines
  
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Programs: BAEC Bronze, Skywards Pleb, Marriott Platinum Premier, SPG Gold
Posts: 11,286
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldnn1 View Post
Similar to the e-gates at immigration, but rather than matching against your passport biometric photo, it will match against the photo taken at domestic security.
At immigration, this is a manual check, as the automatic matching wasn't accurate.

I wonder if it will be manual at the gates?
​​​
DYKWIA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 17, 2:07 am   #15
  
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 4,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldnn1 View Post
Not sure that makes a difference? Other than in setting boarding order.

The point being you only have a biometric photo for domestics, which is what the gates use to identify you.
I just wondered if there was CE on domestics then it would create a greater need for priority boarding, adding considerable complexity to the process.
Flexible preferences is offline   Reply With Quote
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Thread Tools
Search Thread
Go to Top
Forum Jump
Contact Us - FlyerTalk - Archive - Top