Flights through Avios

Old Jun 27, 2017, 4:13 pm
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Flights through Avios

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask this but hopefully someone can advise.

Looking to for 2 of us to fly from GLA to DUB next month using avios points. Looking on Aer Lingus website and the fare has £38 out tax and £30 back tax each . Look on Avios.com and it is 9000 Avios each return but a whopping £218 tax?

How does that work?
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Old Jun 27, 2017, 4:29 pm
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Aer Lingus GLA-DUB taxes, fees and carrier charges per person as follows:

United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty APD (GB) £13.00
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge Departures (UB) £13.33
EI YQ surcharge (YQ) £30.14
EI YR surcharge (YR) £40.00
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP) £14.90
It's really a terrible use of avios. How much are cash fares for your dates? I just did a search for a random date in July and the cheapest fare GLA-DUB was £22 on Ryanair, £30 on Aer Lingus. That's total cost, not just tax (AE doesn't apply YQ to those fares).
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Old Jun 27, 2017, 4:34 pm
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Just had a look for 1 person on EI for next April and it is 8,000 avios + £109.09 for a return, so your £218 figure is a total for 2?

I can't see the breakdown on avios.com so had a look at itamatrix which shows:

United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty APD (GB) £13.00
United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge Departures (UB) £13.33
EI YQ surcharge (YQ) £30.14
EI YR surcharge (YR) £40.00
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP) £14.90
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£111.37 taxes, fees, charges per person

So the figure on avios.com seems right. Not great use of avios though.
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Old Jun 27, 2017, 4:34 pm
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As Ireland falls into the Common Travel Area - you can't avail of the Reward Flight Savers which have the flat rate taxes of £35 - EU routes.
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Old Jun 27, 2017, 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by cayman4522
As Ireland falls into the Common Travel Area - you can't avail of the Reward Flight Savers which have the flat rate taxes of £35 - EU routes.
The lack of RFS in EI flights is nothing to do with the CTA. RFS is only for BA flights so doesn't apply for any other partner bookings using avios. However, it is available for I intra-UK routes as well as LHR-DUB routes. In fact if you route GLA-LHR-DUB you could price up as an RFS at 8,000/9,000 avios + (2 x £17.50) per person.
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Originally Posted by cayman4522
As Ireland falls into the Common Travel Area - you can't avail of the Reward Flight Savers which have the flat rate taxes of £35 - EU routes.
Huh? Nothing to do with CTA!

Reward Flight Savers only apply to BA operated flights. So LON-DUB on BA is fine. LON-DUB, GLA-DUB etc on Aer Lingus isn't.
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Damn, KARFA beat me second time round
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 6:19 am
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Thanks for the advice appreciate it. I looked at Ryanair but the flights are only reasonable if I want to fly at 7am or 11pm which I don't And by the time I add on extras like luggage its not so cheap. I'm really surprised at the cost of some of these flights tbh. Will reconsider my options I think
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 7:35 am
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The weird thing is that the taxes and fees are only £15 for one way DUB-LHR but they are £51 for one way DUB-GLA!!!
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by mickeyjaw
The weird thing is that the taxes and fees are only £15 for one way DUB-LHR but they are £51 for one way DUB-GLA!!!
This is the TFC breakdown for an EI one way in Y to LHR and GLA.

EI DUB-LHR
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP) €16.95
EI YQ surcharge (YQ) €19.10
EI YR surcharge (YR) €23.00

EI DUB-GLA
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP) €16.95
EI YQ surcharge (YQ) €18.05
EI YR surcharge (YR) €23.00

For comparison BA TFC in Y one way:

BA DUB-LHR
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP) €13.70
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by ayrshiredude
Thanks for the advice appreciate it. I looked at Ryanair but the flights are only reasonable if I want to fly at 7am or 11pm which I don't And by the time I add on extras like luggage its not so cheap. I'm really surprised at the cost of some of these flights tbh. Will reconsider my options I think
Train?

Glasgow Central to Dublin Connolly via Holyhead is £44 (advance booking not required). Depart Glasgow at 10:40, arrive Dublin 19:55.

Or, since you're in Ayrshire, via Cairnryan and Belfast for a similar price?
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
This is the TFC breakdown for an EI one way in Y to LHR and GLA.

EI DUB-LHR
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP) €16.95
EI YQ surcharge (YQ) €19.10
EI YR surcharge (YR) €23.00

EI DUB-GLA
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP) €16.95
EI YQ surcharge (YQ) €18.05
EI YR surcharge (YR) €23.00

For comparison BA TFC in Y one way:

BA DUB-LHR
Ireland Passenger Charge (UP) €13.70
So are EI deliberately discounting their DUB-LHR redemptions to compete with BA?
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by Misco60
Train?

Glasgow Central to Dublin Connolly via Holyhead is £44 (advance booking not required). Depart Glasgow at 10:40, arrive Dublin 19:55.

Or, since you're in Ayrshire, via Cairnryan and Belfast for a similar price?
fly to Belfast and train from there would be the quickest without a doubt.

hello from an Ayrshire girl btw!
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